Please keep in mind that the financial fiasco began under a Republican president who took this country into an unnecessary war based on an intricate set of lies, and who then cut taxes leaving behind no funds to pay for it. In other words, the economic challenges have their origins in the Right Wing war machine.

Frances,
The democrats controlled the purse since 2006. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of the spending bills that came out of the House 2 full years before Obama. The Democrats who ALSO voted for the wars had the same flawed intelligence as Bush had. We went to war because almost all the Democrats also voted to go to war. Pelosi and the Democrats were in charge of the money, so why are you not laying the lion's share of blame on the House under Pelosi for not coming up with the money to pay for the wars THEY also voted for?
Enough of "blame Bush" already. Democrats have had more control since 2006 than Republicans, and total control from 2008-2010. Why have Democrats NOT rolled back spending and kept their promises to end the wars?
Facts are a stubborn thing.

Frances, Unlike the sitting President, Bush did not circumvent Congress or the Senate regarding economy and war. Please dont misinterpret reality from politics? The previous administrations went through the proper channels, and yes, the Dems ran Congress, as well as Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.....blame the Commander in Chief all you want, but Bush followed the rules of the land. Your man follows the rules as long as the outcome is his way, and if not simply circumvent and move forward. As a parent of children serving this great country, I live in greater fear today than I did 4 years ago. This fear was escalated a few weeks ago when Americans were killed, and we, to this day, have seen zero from our leadership. Thes eclowns didnt even call it a terroristic act, and have blundered this completely. The SPIN was that the President was in Vegas raising money and preparing for his debate.....I guess what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, because he certainly didnt demonstrate any real intelligence during the debate. Stop protecting a clown! See the actions and results, and place yourself in a desert thinking to yourself "is this guy really have my back"? I can say most in 2 military Divisions dont believe that to be the case.

check out her bio - she is a real flower child!

Ronnie and John,

Just so I understand -- everything that is wrong can be blamed on Democrats in office at the time, and the Republicans have no responsibility in the matter?

So it was Democrats who launched the Iraq War? They just dragged your poor little Republican heroes along for the ride? Bush was forced into it?

It was Democrats who pushed trillions in tax cuts, mostly for the wealthy, under the false promise that it would stimulate growth and actually increase tax revenues?

It was Democrats who blindly deregulated Wall Street, and then when Wall Street robbed America blind offered them a bailout with no strings attached or accountability?

That was all the Democrats fault, and almost no responsiblity falls on our heroes in the Republican Party?

Who is it that has issue with facts and reality?

Nothing is ever the fault of Republicans in your eyes because you are idealogues. You believe in something regardless of facts, and then craft your reality to support your ideology.

Nick, never said the Republicans had nothing to do with our present situation......but at the end of the day, you cannot spend 4 years blaming somebody else, then during a campaign for re-election pretend that your outlandish mistakes remain somebody elses fault. The gun dealer didnt commit the murder, the murderer did. Case in point, this "whole middle east thing", is not very good timing for the man in charge.....he has a re-election to concern himself with. Last I checked he is still getting a paycheck to DO HIS JOB, of which he remains as if the last few weeks have never happened. No, both parties are at fault, but the rhetoric of its somebody else's fault. As more information is revealed, you and the rest of this country will learn, from insiders, not political spinsters, that this administration DROPPED THE BALL, and Americans were killed. Not in war, not as soldiers, but as America's representatives. There is no one to blame other than those in charge.

John ease up on the violent metaphors. You might need counseling - seriously.

"This fear was escalated a few weeks ago when Americans were killed, and we, to this day, have seen zero from our leadership. Thes eclowns didnt even call it a terroristic act, and have blundered this completely"

So in 2001 Bush was President and 3000 Americans where murdered in NYC on a Tuesday morning. Despite the fact we know Bush was warned in advance, he did nothing.

Bush never "got Bin Laden" as he swore to do. Instead he invaded iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11.

You thought so highly of this that you renominated and reelected Bush to a 2nd term.

Fast forward to 2012. A religion induced riot in Libya (not NYC, please note) and tragically Americans are murdered, one if which is a US Ambassador. THIS IS ALL OBAMA'S fault and he needs to be thrown out of office for derilication of duty?

Sound like John. You think like a Tea Bagger.

And on the economy.

"but at the end of the day, you cannot spend 4 years blaming somebody else,"

1st of all this is completely false. The President shows humility is admitting he needs to do a better job. But I see no Republican stepping up and taking any responsibility for the mess we are in, and the lions share belong to them.

Why? Because their policies drove us off the cliff. Massive and irresponsible deregulation of Wall Street and the banking industry. Wild Tax Cuts based on voodoo economics. Spending programs and wars without paying for them.

I could go on if you want John, but my guess is you have your ideology all set and are not really interested in converstation. You want to indoctrinate people.

If you really want troops safe, keep Obama IN, so we don't invade a sovereign nation, just 'cause one president feels like it. (Also, by both U. S. & International law, that was an illegal invasion). Look at all the needless loss, on both sides, the killings, they permanent injuies, THE COSTS in $$$.

Nick, from a guy whose Party has already claimed a PA Obama victory, you certainly appear concerned, as well you should be. Note...those who drove planes into our towers were training to fly planes under Slick Willie's tenure, entered this country all on Willy's watch.....and what was Willy's defense? "I did not have sexual relations with that woman".....guessing he too was a little busy to bother attending any meetings regarding national security....did we even have national security with Clinton, as he pretty much zeroed our military, see Black Hawk Down, but that's another story. maybe if you drop your moistened finger to listen what real people are saying about the attacks on our embassy. lucky Bush didn't have a meeting in Vegas planned on 9/12/01. Last I checked American people re-elected Bush. Hardly a Tea bagger, as I already stated that Reps and Dems made errors...but that doesn't fit your agenda, so you need to start the boring and childish name-calling. Your fear is showing, you boy is talking big bird while my guy is talking jobs and economy, and Yes, I support the second amendment, but have no fear, I, like millions of peaceful gun owners are not the people you need to fear....it's the people who refuse to see an unprepared man who came to a Presidential debate to 'answer some questions'. You are correct that you cannot change my mind, and I am not attempting to change yours.....but no need to name call, as I don't fear the fact that you support Obama.

What about all the American deaths from the Iraq war that only benefited Haliburton. Gas $$ has to do with low supply of summer time gas. Prices will drop after Oct 15th. Romney says he'll keep all the benefits of obamacare but not pay for it, just like a republican.

Frances please keep in mind that the Clinton era lowered the housing standards and pressured lenders, which ALSO led to our economies demise. Explain right wing war machine with the POTUS not out of Afghanistan yet, in LIBYA, and now in JORDAN at Syrian BORDER?

Wow. Ugly words from a mean-spirited, nasty person. Hope that you somehow find peace in your heart. Whew. I have to go and take a shower now to wash myself of the disgust I feel after reading your ugly post.

Is it just educated, independent women you have a problem with or do you name call everyone you don't like? It's easy to hurl one line insults when you are unable to counter with rational facts. You add nothing here, not even to the conservative cause.

@Frances get a grip for real, its ok for the left to bash anybody they want...

if you are going to bash at least put some facts with it, People who just do name calling do so because they don't have any real argument in defense of their position.

Hope you're not counting on Republicans to reverse the debt. Not only have they added significantly to the debt under recent administrations (including bailing out banks), but Romney wants to add even more debt by increasing military spending. America needs a new path to take down the size of the debt, one that neither major party is offering this election, or has attempted in recent administrations. Keep looking around because more of either of the major parties is more of the same. The Libertarian candidate, Gary Johnson, is offering a new path, but regrettably he has been excluded from the Presidential debates so far. Listen to his vision for America via Larry King.

http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/gov-gary-johnsons-interview-with-larry-king

Speaking of liars, Clinton addresses a couple of the Romney/Ryan whoppers. Seriously, are these guys capable of telling the truth? Anyone who votes for this lying flip flipper deserves what they get.
http://www.politicususa.com/bill-clinton-tears-single-romneyryan-lie-dnc.html

David,
Are you seriously pointing to Bill Clinton for your moral "high Ground" on calling out liars? That's rich! Clinton's legacy is sex in the oval office and lying about it. You must be offering some comic relief...yeah, that must be it. Surely you aren't serious.

No one lies better than Romney/Ryan.

if you are going to bash at least put some facts with it, People who just do name calling do so because they don't have any real argument in defense of their position.

Michelle Malkin? Are you serious? This is were you draw your information from? God save us from the right wing.

Nice I'll take a right wing nut anyday over a global elitest, at least I would have a chance of keeping my house.

be fair and read Stanley Kurtz's new book and you'll see what is going on.

I'm not looking for a pistol, Mr. Miller; I am looking for a world that willingly lays down it's guns. No amount of guns will ever keep you, me, or anyone else safe, protected, and/or free. Only an enlightened people can bring about true peace. Peace is more valuable than guns, and infinitely more powerful. We should try it. We are running out of time to do so.

@ sharpie, Ok say all law-abiding citizens weren't allowed to have guns anymore, What are we suppose to do when the criminals are still carrying? This comment is simply NOT TRUE AT ALL "No amount of guns will ever keep you, me, or anyone else safe, protected, and/or free." Read up on Switzerland.... Read up on the places with the least amount of gun laws vs. the most strict gun laws? Have you ever shot a gun? You should try it some time.... It's mad fun!!! remember this a "Society with-out guns is a society with-out freedom" Once the Government has our guns the Government will have us as well!!! News flash there will NEVER be world peace so you can get over that dream..... The closest we'll come is when the government establishes their New World order and that is not for the people, that is for all the governments to hold us down even more..... You seem to have a lot of research to do and if you want to go shooting some day I'll be more then happy to teach you, once you squeeze the trigger at a couple targets you'd go get your concealed carry permit the next day...

Sharpie,
How nice that sounds. You go right ahead and willingly lay down your arms. I'll keep mine and when the s--- hits the fan, you ask your attackers to put their weapons down and I'll teach my attacker why he have the Second Amendment.

Sharpie, the safest country in the world is Switzerland. Why? Yes it is true. Every head of household. They've never been invaded and they are tiny, and every dictator in the world keeps their loot there. Sorry but it is true.

And I would not be to proud of strapping my dog to the roof a car for 1100 miles. Someone who is that callous certainly would not have a problem with our seniors eating catfood because they could not afford care under a voucher type Medicare system.

Smedley
Congratulations on your thoughtfulness. You get the bag of gold because of the comment: "There isn't a dimes worth of difference between the Republicans and Democrats"

Yeah Gary sounds great where is he? at this point I am willing to try anyone besides the commie in chief..... You try to take my guns then we have a problem, because that's not living free!!!

And Patch welcomes its first "Truther". Next time post some links backing your position, there fella.

Chris,
In Sharpie's world he won't have to bring peace, we'll all just "be" peaceful and willingly lay down our arms. Sharpie doesn't realize that as soon as we lay down our arms the bad guys will just chop them off, ensuring that we won't be picking them back up. Sharpie is anything but...

Katherine,
Which globe are you getting your news from? The one we live on is on fire. Even the corrupted main stream media is quick to report on the violence everywhere. Peace through strength. It worked under Reagan.
Peace through apologizing provokes our enemies even more...that's what has happened under Obama.

I agree that their are a lot of people who would like peace. in fact I would say that if asked the question the vast majority of the world would support you on this very issue. But look at the comments on this matter. We cannot get our act together and keep in mind that it is we the people who look in the mirror every day, are the cause for this mess. it isn't Mitt Romney who stares at you when you apply your make up, It isn't Obama who stares at you in the mirror every day. It is you, me and everyone else in this nation who is RESPONSIBLE for the mess we are in and unfortunately few, very few want to do anything about it. Why do we allow our Senators and Congressmen to stay in office term after term and we do that at every level of government. George Mason, involved in the writing of the Virginia Constitution after the Revolutionay War, indicated to office holders that after their term they OUGHT TO GO HOME. Let's tell the currents holders to do that.

Katherine. The world is at our door and while most want a better life, others do not have our best interests at heart. It is hard for gentle people to understand danger. You are in a safe position today here because of many many many men who laid down their lives. The structure they provided us is in jeopardy because we are complacent. It doesn't mean you have to take up arms or anything drastic but get involved in your community, start a pantry, be aware and live in code yellow.

These kids would be looking around to where 1st Amendment rights are being trampled in the Presidential debates by excluding candidates from participation in the debates beyond the two major parties. Kids would be smart about that.

You're speaking for a lot of people, Mr. Weaver, when you say that "discussions and comments accomplish absolutely nothing." Contrary to your point, when people are more informed, they do make better decisions.

Katherine,
Mr. Weaver said "these" discussions, not "all" discussions. Pay attention. Any commenter can plainly see what Mr. Weaver means. This forum is highly unlikely to bring about change among its commenters. I am certainly not going to be swayed by the liberal rubbish thrown around here, just as the liberals posting here are unlikely to become conservative just because they are exposed to facts here.

It does seem a bit futile Ronald. :(

@David - Well, I know *something* goes up when I read these comments. All this anger, finger-pointing, accusations, bad manners, name-calling and just plain nonsense delivered by supposed adults. Relax. Let it go already.

@David - by saying "let it go already" I meant the right slamming the left & the left slamming the right. Blame runs the gamut and mean spiriting comes out. Usually from the right. Funny how though, I thought the "right" was "all God & that brimstone stuff". Guess they don't practice what they preach. Peace.

Sorry there Sly, I am not just going to sit here and listen to Obama get bashed by the most reprehensible canidate that I can recall. This guy is poison. He's changed his position on abortion, gun control , taxes and whatever suits his audience that day. People instinctively recognise this, hence his poor favorability rating. Have you not seen the 47% video? is that the man you want leading this country?
I just hope your not advocating complacency, because that will never work.

I agree with you - that's what I was trying to convey. Sorry if I got it wrong. You cannot trust Mitt and I cannot, for the life of me, fathom that many people drink his Kool Aid willingly and swallow it.

I can't stand Mittens. I even like my Mother in Law better!

Thanks Sly, and I am sorry if I misinterpreted you.

PS: Don't be so hard on your MIL, after all she probably never strapped her dog to the roof of her car. :)

Mr. Weaver, I'm not taking about Mr. Obama or Mr. Romney though they sure do get a lot of talk. You are right in saying that It is precisely where one gets their information that matters. It would be a justice if the people received it from nationally televised Presidential debates where it should be voiced from all candidates - including those in third parties. Upholding lying and deception because they work is not a pathway to honor. It should be time we hope more for ourselves, our country, and humanity.

Your 401K has gone up and that's good, isn't it?

No wander Obama gets votes with nonsense like this, if this is what anyone bases their decision on. Remember, Obama people ate dogs if anyone feels this information determines the right choice for President. Campaign meaningless nonsense, look at performance, you don't hear this coming from the Obama campaign, just distraction from facts and it seems to work for help. God help America.

Here we go again.."the rich guy" nonsense, playing this card and people buy it. The facts are Obama only condemns the rich who don't support him. How about zoros and the like. OK I guess.

He had the dog in an appropriate carrier. Can you please tell me how that affects you having an abortion or doing anything with your own body. Unfortunately abortion is legal. You might want to check on the information pertaining to abortion and breast cancer. What i want to do is tell both sexes to purchase their own birth control stuff.

Hillary lied, and that is worse.

$50 says Biden rips Ryan a new one in their debate this week. Joe won't sit back and politely listen to Ryan lie like Obama did for Mitt last week. I expect some fireworks and Mr. Ryan won't know what hit him.

I also expect Obama to come out swinging in his next debate with Mitt but that is a discussion for another day.

Matter of political persuasion, what one chooses to believe. Time will tell what is best for America. However Obama gets votes is a good vote, no wander this country is in moral decay. Conservative policies are the best overall policies despite its imperfections. Balance the budget, protecting the unborn not killing babies to cover bad choices, man and women equals a good marriage relationship, to name a few big issues.

The Book of Revelations might be fulfilled for us as individuals guided by the individual choices we make in this world, in this life. If we choose war here as an individual, maybe we choose it as our destiny. If we choose peace here individually, perhaps we will continue to find it. Choose carefully. We walk everyday toward our destiny, but we choose it right now by our own choices.

Peace is only possible when the certainty of belief is extinguished - as long as people are willing to kill for an ideology, peace is impossible.

No apologies for Biblical ideals, our country was founded on, believe it or not. Yes, my points are reflection of religious beliefs. Who is forcing you to believe, I believe in tolerance, Obama and the like find ways to punish and attempt to destroy those that differ. I believe in a non intrusive government. Remember Liberals vote for big intrusive wasteful, Government.

Well put.

Freedom is an ideal worth dying for, many have given their lives in the past so we can freely express what we believe even if we differ. We cannot change people who desire to destroy us in the world. We can and should practice love, however, it will not change the rest of the world. If we decide to disarm as an example to others, we will be destroyed.

Of course we can change people who desire to destroy us - we don't have to do it by disarming ourselves, but by not bombing their villages and shooting their people. By addressing the true reasons for their animosity and defusing the rhetoric used to galvanize a populace against us. By proving that their leader's inflammatory hatred pales before the righteous wisdom of an enlightened free people. By not letting ourselves be hamstrung by the crushing hypocrisy of bringing freedom to the Middle East by enforcing a violent police state and installing leaders who'll act as our nation's puppets. This isn't a religious conflict - it's a resources conflict, and the powerful on both sides are leveraging the blind religious sanctimony and unquestioning nationalism to get people to die for them. Freedom is about more than self-governing, it's also about ethical freedom, and nobody has that as long as the yoke of murder, oppression and slavery is around our nation's neck. We aren't two dogs in a fight to the death, we're smart people who can resolve this. If freedom's worth dying for, surely it's worth paying more at the pump for?

Please... fly right now to Iraq and set up a missionary preaching this.... you can make a difference....

We will never help anyone by creating and adding to violence. We will only bring it down on our own heads. The days for choosing war and violence should be over. We step as individuals into the light. No one can help us if we choose unwisely.

"One nation, under God", You will find references on public buildings and on coins. It is not mentioned in the constitution, we have religious freedom, regardless of what we believe, this nation was highly influenced by Biblical ideals.

'God' doesn't imply something necessarily Biblical, though - most political philosophy from that era uses God, Nature, Truth, or Creator to say 'inherent' or 'with full cognizance of being.'

Lectures are only allowed and accepted when it is a Liberal opinion, who in the world substantiates every opinion, certainly not Obama and most poloticians all Party's and I am sure you don't. Very tiresome when one does not agree with an opinion. These expressed views, respecting all views do relate to the original article in many ways how else would one respond during this rotten campaign nonsense.

And the alternative candidate to corporate oligarchy is...?

We all have the right to interpret facts, but facts remain facts. The future will determine the real facts about God our creator who is in total control allowing nothing to happen without his permission with purposes we cannot fathom but ultimately for good. Humanism has no absolute basis and changes constantly but what good remains today is the affect of Biblical standards throughout history, whatever parents teach and their life example passed down with humanism corrupting and changing as individuals see fit again with no basis. You better hope you are right, someday we will all give an account of ourselves, matters not what we believe about this truth. I am sure this is all hogwash to many, time WILL tell.

When looking to the Founding Fathers in support of religion, God, or their followers, you will find yourself disappointed in the result. Thomas Jefferson, one of my favorite Patriots, said
"The Christian god is a three headed monster, cruel, vengeful, and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes: fools and hypocrites."

Ronald - you are stating that your beliefs about your version of God are facts. Your belief that nothing happens without ordnance from your God is simply your belief. You may be right and you may be wrong. The Founders were well aware of how dangerous a belief that is, which is perhaps why they placed such importance on freedom of religion for the new world.

The idea that every single thing every single person does is being directed through the guiding permission of another being is simply insane. We're doing people a disservice by pretending this is completely normal religious belief and not some persuasion of schizophrenia. It doesn't even make sense on a theological level - if God controls everything, why spell out the Ten Commandments in the first place? Removing agency from humanity is also removing responsibility from humanity - if everything is an omnipotent God's will, then nothing can be changed or improved, and everything we perceive as evil is actually an intentional good that we just can't understand. If God is so unknowable and contradictory, maybe we should all stop pretending that we know specifics about him.

There is a religion for every personality type. Some like to think for themselves and see the inherent beauty in honoring the principle that a higher being could do nothing more loving than granting free will to it's children...that is justice, that is freedom, compassion, the gift of time and endless opportunity...that is the higher standard and the intended promise of America, the New Atlantis that was initiated 300 years ago. My take on it after years of study, anyway.

Every politician has used the price of gas at the pump to sway the politically uninformed (or, as I guess we call them now, 'swing voters'). It's amazing how many people understand neither inflation nor global commodity pricing.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo. Cuckoo.

Garrett, you strike me as a person that has little regard for history. Why don't you do some research and compare Bush's administration record of terror attacks, unemployment, mismanagement of national disasters and of course the financial markets. I know R's try to disavow his administration ; but that is the one people remember. Add to that some of the Congressional Rs who deny science and are willing to intrude on the rights of women. The R party scares me with some of their ways and beliefs. That my friend is why many moderates could never be in the R Party.

David...Your "history" is conveniently limited to Bush 43. That aside, the only history relevant in this election is that of the current POTUS and his opponent. The facts of the current POTUS record are indisputable (good & bad) as are his proposed changes to our ways of life (taxes, spending, debt, welfare, etc....again, good & bad). It's a decision as to whether each voter prefers to live the next 4 years under the current set of policies and those proposals laid out by the current administration or not. This election has nothing to do with Bush 43....drop it.

Good idea, however, both expose them as liars. There has not been a president who follows the constitution strictly since before I was born. To make matters worse congress, ordained to keep a check on presidential powers, is silent when faced with illegal exectuive orders and the continued rape of Liberty. The Constitution is the orderly way out of our current situation. But like a fire extinguisher hidden in the cabinet, unable to put out the fire burning around us unless resurected by the voters and those we elect. The republicans had a oppurtunity to choose a conservative, committed to resolve the ominous situation we find ourselves in today, and for a number of reasons his voice was ignored to the detriment of our peaceful and orderly seocity.

Ron Paul? RP is a Constitutionalist. A threat to the Status Quo. There is something amiss when thousands show up to see a presidential candidate speak in a major cities across the country, yet repeatedly not a single network news team shows up to report on it. This corrupted political system is still fighting to keep the other 2 running candidates out of the debates and even off of the ballots. A sad day for Liberty.