Jack, your wrong again. 82% of gun owners and 71% of NRA members support background checks. For over a year you have lied to suppoort your viewpoint. Facts are based on truth and your denial of these facts doesn't change the truth. Spin it whatever way you want, but you look stupid. The real proplem is that people like you (anti-intellectuals) are/have destroyed the republican party. As a dem, i love it, but we need two strong parties to keep gov't in check.
Republican=stupid

@Patrick,

Clinton, for one, believed that voting for the the assault weapons ban in 1994 had cost about 20 House Democrats their seats—meaning that the measure had caused a political backlash that led to a GOP the majority in the House. If Obama and others confront the NRA, they had better expect—and prepare for—a battle that will reach a crescendo on November 4, 2014.

http://home.nra.org/#

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/bill-clinton-assault-weapon-ban-newtown-shooting

Facts are like pieces of gold shining up from the bottom of progressive liberal media murky waters, in which you, Patrick, choose to drown. As a dem, you prove your "love" for anything but facts. "Stupid" and other insults win no hearts or minds to your cause or your Party. But keep posting and revealing what's inside the liberal mind.

Patrick,

You come off as very childish when you resort to calling people names in each and every one of your posts. Typical democrat, who is insecure with his party.

Just saying.

Steve, your wrong on 2 points. PA only has background checks for guns bought at "brick and morter" stores. Secondly, passing laws that changes current law doesn't violate the Constitution. These new laws are called Amendments. There has been changes to the 2nd amendment. That's why you can't buy a rocket-launcher.
republican=stupid

@ Patrick,

PA requires background checks at gun shows. Harrisburg remains staffed on weekends to handle this. You are very wrong.

United States v. Miller decided that the sorts of weapons protected are those in common use at the time. You are very wrong again.

Patrick=fact-hating progressive liberal media-believing self-admitted Democrat.

Jack, where do I start? I bought a 30 aught 6 at the Oaks gun show last year with no background check. Yes, I'm a multi-gun owner. Secondly, the reason why roket launchers are illegal is because they are 'military style' weapons and not deemed hand-held. Thirdly, your the fact denier. Lastly, I am a democrat, but I would change parties If I disagreed with their policies.
republican=losers

@ Patrick,

You incorrectly wrote that PA only requires background checks for guns purchased at brick & mortar stores. The same laws apply to gun shows and private transactions. You know the rules do not apply to long guns, only handguns. You're just desperately reaching.

Our Party is constantly seeking to recruit common-sense taxpayer watchdogs of talent. Fact-hating, rude, mean-spirited disingenuous looters not welcome. Don't change parties. :-)

Gee, patrick... what exactly is the caliber of that "30 aught 6" you bought? I suspect you are merely repeating what you have overheard from actual experts. In any case, no, you cannot amend the US or PA constitutions just by passing a bill. THAT'S THE POINT. The US constitution is amended by passing a bill and having it ratified by 3/4 of the states, and the PA constitution is amended by twice passing a bill by majority (or once by a 2/3 majority) and then by a majority of the voters. We effectively can't buy rocket launchers because of a combination of a 1934 tax stamp law and probably the 1986 gun control law. Both laws are probably unconstitutional, but not obvious enough to cause a revolt yet. leftist=ignorant

Obama has already changed parts of the 1st amendment look it up it is true

You can purchase a selective fire weapon made before 1986. Since no one has committed a crime with one of these in decades, it's just a showoff part of the bill for an ineffective legislator.

What makes you think the people who want the right to bear arms are against the right to marry anyone or use marijuana? Freedom loving people should be for all of those. How's that straw man holding up?

That's funny Jack. I think your rationale is called "projecting" in psychology circles. The GOP is the party of lies and deceit. You and the pubs try to manipulate facts to push your losing agenda. Keep it up. I didn't think that we could take back the House, but recent polls have 26 republican reps losing their seat. We only need 17 to regain full control. Obviously, this method isn't working.
republican=stupid

Why are dems so insecure they ALWAY resort to name calling. Ver very matureyou are patrick

Mr. Minster,

Just FYI, and with all due respect, the supposed Hitler quote you cite is a bogus one that has been passed around the internet for a while: http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html.

Mr. Wynn - correction appreciated.

The leftist can only argue against a straw man.

A Straw man?
did you forget the crowd of birthers you left at the door?

Scalia never said any such thing. I would be eager to see proof. He has said before that, like most rights, there can always be modest limitations in order to protect the rights of others. He also decided against the DC gun ban on the basis that individuals are the militia, and the weapons protected are military weapons.

totally, agree Smedley wish more people would think about this never ending good cop (Dems) bad cop (Repubs) crapola. :)

That's an even bigger Joke than Patricks. You can stick that fiscal cliff up your you know what Jack. Another garbage talking point brought to you by the government and main stream media. I'll vote for anyone who's not a republican or democrat. I don't care if you're from the Halloween Party.

You counter current published numbers from the IRS and US Treasury Department with a year old Factcheck opinion piece, Factcheck, an increasingly partisan source, then slam CNN/Money Magazine which draws from the same sources? Keep spinning. The looters' policy will continue to run its natural course, like gravity and water. A certainty.

Wrong spot to reply, but nevertheless...

My Factcheck piece (not opinion unless you can somehow tell me how their research was flawed) was specifically addressing your points. Since your talking points were old (as were your articles/sources), my source was old. Your numbers weren't current. You cited an old article. Not my fault.

The latest numbers available from the IRS and Treasury Department nestled firmly within Obama-Democrat regime. GDP is down for the first time since 2008. Unemployment is sustained up. Small business closures sustained up. Layoffs up. Only natural.

When the next Federal reports come out, we'll see if Obama's newest policies magically reverse the last 100 years of economic policy outcome certainty. History keeps on repeating.

Random stats, economy bad, blame Obama. You should stop with non sequiturs.

Patrick, I hope you aren't Madelien's husband as @Sandy suggested above. I am a republican woman who happens to agree with gun control. I voted for Ms. Dean because I believed her to be somewhat bipartisan like Josh was (nothing to do with gun control). If @Sandy knows something, I was sadly mistaken to have voted democrat. You are spouting too much hostility and it detracts from any intelligent statement you may make.

Barbara, I am not Ms. Dean's husband. As for the hostility, get over it. Grow up and move on.
republican=losers

Barbara - there was NOTHING bi-partisan about Josh Shapiro. He is as hard left as you can get; and Madeleen is only his puppet. You get what you vote for.

Patrick, go play with spongebob.

So you're upset because something that Obama pushed for (the tax holiday) that was only supposed to last a limited amount of time (like normal holidays) ended as it was designed to do. You then blame Obama for it while neither party could really say that it was sustainable. That makes no sense.

The non-extension of certain Bush tax cuts does not hit nearly 1 million small-mid size business owners: http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2013/jan/03/john-boehner/john-boehner-says-half-wealthiest-americans-are-sm/

No war declared, just sensible plans to try to stop our deficit from growing (though we do need to tackle spending cuts as acknowledged by basically everyone including Obama).

Also, why is it something negative to be a self-admitted Democrat? Would you say the same for Republicans? Because all of your insults could easily be switched for them as well. If you are going there you should hate on people who self identify with any political party as it surrounds them in their own dogma with blinders to other solutions to problems. Please be fair and balanced, like Fox News... or MSNBC... Just kidding, you can't get fair and balanced in American media, so I guess you shouldn't try to be either.

Raising tax rates for incomes over $500,000 will affect roughly 750,000 owners of businesses that are organized as small businesses, according to a 2011 study by the Treasury Department. That number is now up to a million with start-ups. It represents about 4% of small-business owners. These owners receive about 56% of all income of such businesses.

while many large companies pay taxes at the corporate rate, most U.S. businesses are organized as "small businesses," meaning they pay taxes through their owners' personal tax returns at the individual rate. When the individual rate goes up, so does the rate on these companies' income.

The vast majority of the money showing as profit in these businesses goes right back into the businesses - which can't grow without cash. This isn't rocket science, Mr. Finnick. And it is war. Class warfare. Obama somehow tapped into feelings of dissatisfaction and envy, promising to "spread the wealth around." Top producers, job creators: looters are counting on them working just as hard as ever, expanding businesses, creating jobs, despite this assault. The real unemployment number is 14.7% sustained year after Obama year. GDP is down for the first time in 5 years.

The only way a government can be of service to national prosperity is by keeping its hands off. Republican=small government. Democrat=expanding government.

"Lower taxes. A rising tide lifts all boats." Democrat President JFK said it.

Oh, so by small business you mean big business organized as small business to get around taxes... huh... still seems okay to me. You then cite random statistics to prove a tangential point. You're right, it isn't rocket science, it is talking points. Thanks for the clarification.

Untrustworthy statistics only if you don't trust the US Treasury Department under Obama. http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/tax-policy/tax-analysis/Documents/OTA-T2011-04-Small-Business-Methodology-Aug-8-2011.pdf

Thanks for the citation. Did you actually read it or did you just scroll to the bottom and pick a number? Because it clearly states things like this: "We also find that slightly more than one-fifth of small businesses conform to our definition of an employer," and "For tax year 2007, approximately one percent of all filers reporting sixteen percent of total AGI faced one of the two top statutory tax rates."

You're welcome, yes I read it, and you still dance around facing the point.

http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/tax-policy/tax-analysis/Documents/OTA-T2011-04-Small-Business-Methodology-Aug-8-2011.pdf

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/04/smallbusiness/obama-tax-employers/index.html

Obama letting the Bush tax cuts expire for top earners hits only a fraction of all small businesses, but it includes nearly 1 million companies that employ people, employ an estimated 60 million Americans -- about half of all private sector employees.

If small businesses are aggressively hiring and creating jobs during the 5 years of Obama fiscal policy, why has unemployment (real) remained over a nauseating, embarrassing 14.7%? Afraid to make bold moves under the "leadership" of a crew adding 19,000 pages of regulations and new taxes? Hiding their money in muni bonds, retracting their workforces, expecting more labor from fewer employees so that they, the risk-takers, can maintain (not increase) their standard of living?

Of course. The layoff bomb has detonated. Small business owners are having to lay off employees, due to the crushing finanical burden of Obamacare. Large businesses are contemplating cutting workers’ hours and hiring freezes. Small businesses are doing the same. More than 200,000 small businesses vanished between early 2008 and 2010. Check the Gallup poll showing business owners are among those with the most negative views of the Obama administration.

You are still missing the point out of what you sent. You cite numbers without meaning. Basically, you are saying, "ECONOMY BAD!" then blaming Obama. The article is old (by a biased blogger writing for CNN... I know usually liberal, but they occasionally need a counterpoint), citing the $200,000 number originally pushed for, but not enacted. Got current numbers? Because they are much lower than your 1 million small businesses.

Also, with regard to Obamacare (thanks for bringing up something completely tangential to this discussion) the true and full effects have not been seen yet. All of this worry is ginned up for no actual reason yet. The CBO still believes it will save money overall and it shouldn't cost our economy jobs: http://www.factcheck.org/2012/02/gops-job-killing-whopper-again-2/

Swing and a miss!

Can you explain how those amendments affected the second?

Gun Control for Dummies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F584p5kJL-U

That is a good point, she swore to uphold it.

I dumbed it down for you republicans.
republicans=stupid

GUNS KILLED OVER 14,000 LAST YEAR.
republican=stupid

michael curtis sr, your right. It's a waste of time trying to bring you into the light. Your party is dead. No more presidency(after 4 more of O, you'll get 8 of Hillary), no more senate, next year we take the house. How long til Obama names another justice, and then another, and maybe another? Texas goes blue in 2114, Arizona goes blue in 2116. PA is blue and dems gain @100,000 new comrades year while pubs lose 25,000. Stand your ground, while we mow you over. I would rather compromise now and get something done, but we can wait just a little longer and have TOTAL control.
It's not good for gov't to have only 1 strong party, but maybe it's the opening for a real third party. BYE-BYE GOP.
republican=stupid(especially on this post)

Brother Anthony you speak the truth. They won't believe it. The other is always the cause of everything wrong with the country.

you really are a curmudgeon. Old-men usually are.

Nice try. I actually work at a school in Bucks County.

I'm not sure why it matters.