Souderton Resident James Troutman Charged With Rape and Murder of Skyler Kauffman
Troutman states he "snapped" and choked his 9-year-old neighbor to death.
Amidst an onslaught of expletives and threats from a mob of local residents, James Lee Troutman was arraigned shortly after 4:30 p.m. on Tuesday at the Souderton District Court.
Wearing a bulletproof vest, jeans, and a T-shirt, Troutman sat silently with his head in his hands as the judge read aloud the charges, which Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Ferman had levied against him.
The charges included murder in the first degree, murder in the second degree, kidnapping, rape, deviate sexual intercourse with a child, abuse of a corpse, and tampering with evidence.
The charges stem from last night's disappearance of 9-year-old Skyler Kauffman, who failed to show up for dinner with her family around 6 p.m. Monday evening.
"The investigation began initially with a call by Kauffman's mother (Heather Gebhard) to the local police shortly after 7 p.m. yesterday evening," said Ferman.
After failed attempts to locate Kauffman by both family and local police, two residents of the Souderton Garden Apartments stated they had found what they believed was a pool of blood in one of the apartment complex's common basements.
Shortly after, Montgomery County Detective Edward Schikel encountered Troutman, and noticed what he thought was blood on Troutman's right sneaker.
According to court documents, both the detective and Troutman continued their conversation, in which Troutman spoke of a previous altercation with the victim. Troutman subsequently agreed to assist in the investigation, and led the two back to his apartment.
Upon knocking on the door, Troutman's fiancee, Heather Clemens, yelled "Come in," at which point the detective and the accused entered the residence.
Clemens stated that Troutman had left the apartment around 5 p.m., to "play games on his cell phone." A little while later, she stated she heard a girl screaming loudly, saying "no" multiple times while crying.
Clemens described hearing a "wailing" sound, as well as "crashing sounds" and the sound of someone falling to the ground.
Clemens stated that she immediately tried to contact Troutman via cell phone, though he didn't answer. After 20 minutes, Troutman called Clemens, stating he was exercising at the Indian Crest School.
When Troutman arrived home, Clemens stated he was covered in what looked like mud, and said he had gotten dirty while working out on a football field. He then got a shower, put his clothes in a hamper in the master bedroom, and sat down with Clemens for dinner.
Detective Schikel asked to see the clothing, and Clemens escorted him to the master bedroom, where he found blood-soaked clothing in the hamper.
Later in the evening, Detective Moyer of the Franconia Township Police Department discovered the body of Skyler Kauffman wrapped in a blanket and tossed into a trash bin within the apartment complex.
Though initially denying any involvement, Troutman later admitted that he had "choked her to death with [his] own hands," while also admitting that Kauffman's head hit the floor "a couple of times."
Troutman stated that he walked Kauffman into the basement of his building, and once inside, "it was like a white-out" and he "snapped."
After the alleged murder, Troutman stated "I got rid of her," at which point he admitted to wrapping the child in a blanket and throwing her body into a dumpster.
According to a report by the Montgomery County Medical Examiner, the cause of death was asphyxia and blunt-force trauma, with sexually related lacerations and trauma.
"This is one of those terribly disturbing situations where it seemingly happens out of nowhere. No criminal history to speak of, and certainly none of the typical history that we see many times in cases with these kind of allegations," said Ferman.
Troutman is currently being held without bail, and his preliminary hearing is scheduled for May 19 at 1 p.m.
In the wake of the tragedy, residents of the area were out nearly all day Tuesday, trying to comfort one another in the aftermath of an alleged brutal murder.
"My stepson and his girlfriend actually went out looking for her after the Amber Alert," said one neighbor, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
"It's just horrible. When you go after a defenseless child, screw the courts. Let the public have him. That's an innocent child that couldn't fight back," said the neighbor. "I can't imagine what her parents are going through. My heart goes out to them."
Another resident, Lisa DeVenney, walked through the police barricade, heading toward the scene of the murder while carrying a handful of red flowers. She was escorted off the scene, as her friend said "They should definitely hang that piece of (expletive)."
As of 7 p.m., hundreds of people were at the intersection of Second Street and Chestnut, holding a candlelight vigil, including the victim's aunt and cousin, who are selling T-shirts in an effort to raise money to pay for Kauffman's funeral.
Stay tuned to Patch for more information, as it becomes available.
sharon handy
9:39 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
i hope that bastard gets what he did to little sklar stop bein so easy on these freaks cut his balls off and let him die slowly...
Jen
4:22 pm on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
I think they should be looking at the parents more closely because they don't seem near upset enough for 2 people whose 9-year-old daughter just got murdered and thrown in a dumpster. Where were they when you are supposed to teach your kids not to talk to strangers and especially not to go into strangers houses. All they can do is blame it on the police. Are you kidding me?????????
Raymond A Hopkins
8:57 pm on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Jen...No one is to blame except the man who killed Skylar. It was not her parents fault. When the first event happened, the police were called.
People need to stop looking for anyone to BLAME except the man who killed her. Not the police, parents, community, Skylar, her friends, their family, people who heard things that evening who remembered it in hindsight. NO ONE IS TO BLAME BUT THE PERSON WHO COMMITED THIS CRIME!!!
David LeVack
10:34 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
what is left out of this article is how he offered to let the girl and her friend use his bathroom while playing a few weeks before. He made them uncomfortable, made a comment, and the girls left uncomfortable. No one investigated this incident and the girls dead.
Keith Heffintrayer
2:34 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
At the behest of Montgomery County District Attorney Risa Ferman, we chose to leave the prior incident out of our main article, due to charges not being filed.
In the interest of the public, the suspect was investigated two weeks prior, after inviting Kauffman and a friend into his home to use the bathroom. Upon entry, the victim and her friend saw pornography along the bathroom walls, and quickly tried to flee the scene.
After fighting with a locked door, which court documents imply was locked by Troutman, the two subjects fled to their parents home, at which point the police were called.
We're going to do a follow up tomorrow morning regarding the prior incident and the family's reaction.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
2:45 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Keith, those are good points and thank you for the clarification. I am sure that we will all appreciate the follow-up along with the family's reaction and will definitely read it. And of course we understand any 'delays' in reactions by the family as they have way too much on their hands already. But done appropriately would be doing us a great service so that we can come to understand to all of the events surrounding these tragic and horrific events.
Keith Heffintrayer
2:54 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
@ Christopher - We at Patch aim to bring you the facts as quickly as possible, but in this circumstance, charges were not filed, and it was inappropriate to contact the family.
Our photographer, Kristen McMaster acquired comments from immediate family members during the vigil, but individual contact was put on hold for the evening in respect for the family and their loss.
We have contacted the victim's aunt and cousin, who are both involved with raising funds regarding funeral costs. At their request, we have postponed our interview until tomorrow morning. We will address both their statements and their fundraising effort tomorrow morning.
Ian
10:53 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
It was so sad. You could see how upsetting this was to the community. The mother had people bring her items from the Vigil because she couldn't go to it herself due to reporters bombarding her with cameras and questions.
It's so horrible. That poor girl. R.I.P. Skylar.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
11:01 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
The "white out defense" holds absolutely no water whatsoever. There is no conceivable good reason for him to lure her to the basement. Even if his initial intention wasn't to commit murder it matters not. He will most definitely get his. But first and foremost my thoughts and prayers are with the family and friends. I wish I had the amount of money that I'd love to donate to give Skylar the appropriate funeral.
christine
11:10 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
What happened is so sickening and heartbreaking. I can't believe the monster's fiancee didn't go check on the noises she heard in the common basement!! It's a shame our children can't play outside without worry and that's why I find it important to watch my 7 yr old son while he plays outside, even if my neighborhood is considered "safe". You really don't know who might be watching and waiting(from a house window, car, on foot) for that one chance. This is something expected amongst animals, not humans.
Jasmira
11:20 pm on Tuesday, May 10, 2011
yes I hope that sick bastard rots in hell wtf.was he thinkn im soo hurt.her.family is in my prayers RIP Skylar
april
1:35 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
he has thought of doing this before. his ideas were secrets in his head. there are so many sickos some extreme, some just secrets in their heads; they are people we live next door to , we send our children to shcool to , we call family. when our society raises it standards as a whole, men wont be victims of the filthy influences we allow for the sake of freedom. Lovely children wont be victims of their disgust and lust. poor baby girl, he abused you, u never needed to know such a horrible monster,it took your life to expose his evil. i wrap u in hearts and return you to god. tell him what happened to you, vengenance is his.
Verna
2:25 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
How can I donate money to the family for Skylar's funeral or anything else they may need?
Keith Heffintrayer
2:36 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
We have an interview scheduled with family members tomorrow morning, which gives them time to figure out the logistics and specifics of fundraisers to help with funeral costs.
We'll update you tomorrow as soon as information becomes available.
Andrew
3:54 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
@Christine: I am very familiar with that apartment complex and you hear lots of shouting and screaming that maybe on paper one would read and say "how could you not react to that" but there are always children there screaming at one another or parents that you honestly can't differentiate between an incident and nothing. I'm sure that had something to do with her reaction to the screams
katie
8:31 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
im sorry....i understand that there are lil kids and parents screaming and sometimes its hard to tell over what but you honestly dont think you can tell the difference between a lil kid screaming over some toy or whatever and skyler screaming for her life. im pretty sure theres a different type of scream. my mai question is how was she the ONLY one to hear anything.
rebeccah
6:10 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
this is such a shame .that ***hole should get everything he gets then some.thats a little child,what n the hll is wrong with people today.my prayers are for her and her family.
lauren
6:10 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Another fine example of what is wrong with our judicial system this monster should not even recieve a hearing. He is going to use this "white out" excuse so that he can serve his time protected in a mental health ward. I cant stomache the thought that we would even waste time putting this monster in protective clothing due to the possibility of someone taking this animals life in transit. Let it happen for once people and then maybe others wont be so free to attempt hurting our children! Does anyone understand that this victim has no say and that she lost her life because of this animals actions. A bullet cost a lot less than housing this animal in a facility for the rest of his miserable life. Im sure we can find a few volunteers to do it! RIP baby girl and God give her family the strength to carry through this horrific time.
Ashlee
12:49 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
They are aware of the circumstances of his excuse, and because of that, his excuses are invalid.
Mike
7:12 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
In prison, child molesters are nicknamed Short Eyes and are singled out for particularly harsh treatment. Guards will look the other way while inmates tee off. In brief, they are considered to be the lowest piece of crap there and get abused far beyond the level most have to endure. He is going to suffer greatly, have no fear. He should ask for the death penalty .
Ashlee
12:50 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Yes..and believe it or not, he's probably no where near any other inmates. Fun to think of it that way though, isn't it?
JEFF GORDON
8:28 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Put him in a jail with some Hell's Angels - they know what to do.
Argon
8:29 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
This is so sad. My heart goes out to the victims family. Mindless evil is rampant in the world. I would call this unholy creature an animal,but it would be an insult to animals. I pray that the family can somehow deal with this.
len550hp
8:53 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
white out my a$$... put him in jail in genaral pop. this is one sob i'd gladly pay taxes to keep alive.
marieantoinette
9:38 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Prayers for the family. This person is demon possessed, and will have to answer to the Almighty.
Eric
11:29 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Disgusting. I know not many details are known at this time, but given the charges I'd say this is a tad more than a case of him "snapping." Horrible, horrible, horrible. My heart goes out to the family.
miranda bannister
11:46 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
yes i was there it was very sad. i wish some one had done more to save her. there are alot of sick people out here. just stay safe and off the streets. god loves you thank you. i bet skyler was a great kid,. dear lord please watch over skylers family helping them get through this god loves you amen
Eric2
11:53 am on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
To the degree that we tolerate these guys among us, it's our fault.
We focus on our rights (and theirs), and ignore our responsibilities (and theirs).
How many of our wives and daughters have to take the horror train to their graves before we man up and clean house? The perp gets processed, the system gets paid, and the girls die. Enough.
Guardian31756
3:49 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
@ Eric2, Want to know whats more IRONIC then what you have said ?
It's more ironic that if this scumbag gets sent to prison for life, he's going to LAUGH at all of us because he just got away with murder ! He's not going to do very much while in prison is he ? He's going to place a drain on your hard earned tax dollars and your going to let him do this, day after day !
I keep seeing that Police Officer protecting that scumbag who is wearing a Bullet-Proof vest and he gets protection from whom ? Who is he afraid of now ? NOT YOU ! OH NO, He's not afraid of you, he's in a cage, protected against people like YOU and ME !
Michael
12:38 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
Why does this guy get a fair trial while Osama gets a bullet through the head?
Alicia
1:39 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
I cannot but help wonder just how many people heard this poor girl screaming and didn't do anything about it? Our society needs to step in and step up. So many people will get caught up in meaningless gossip but when something serious goes on they choose to stay uninvolved. If anyone who heard the screaming called the police right away, including his fiance, Skyler might still be alive today.
People who do nothing when they hear trouble are as guilty as the perpetuator.
Lisa R
2:39 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
The death penalty is too good for this guy. I agree that I'd gladly pay taxes to keep this guy alive so that he can suffer every single day--let him get assaulted every day just like he assaulted an innocent, defenseless child. See how he likes it. My heart goes out to this little girl's family.
ls
7:36 pm on Wednesday, May 11, 2011
I have a few questions regarding the parents. Why would you let your child go unsupervised if something had happened a few weeks prior. Second, she didn't come IN for dinner at 6pm. I would think, that if it was dinner time, the parent would verbally call the children in for dinner. Third, again, dinner was at 6 and her 9 year old daughter did not come inside. Wouldn't one think the parent would go to look for her? And when there was no sign of her..I think an hour is a long time to wait before one calls the police for a missing child.
Not to be cruel and unfeeling but all of these things plus the fact that she showed no remorse. If she did, it certainly didn't come across during her interviews.
I think there are many questions that need to be answered. Yes, this is a horrific act. And, yes, he did have known mental issues. Yes, the police could have probed a little further a few weeks ago but one would think the parents of this child would be more aware of her whereabouts BECAUSE there were prior incidences. Instead, they look for her after dinner. They looked for her with the police. And the father said something along the lines of eating dinner while his daughter was killed. I thought it was a neighbor and here it was her father?
This is not one person. They say it takes a village. Well, the village failed her.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
5:57 pm on Thursday, May 12, 2011
Remorse is definitely the wrong word to use in any event. Perhaps regret. And it could be that she has been in a state of shock. People handle situations differently. I am sure that anything anyone could state that could have been done differently is at the forefront of their minds. So lay the blame with the guilty. I missed where any report stated that the parents didn't look for her before calling the police. I wouldn't have believed unless it had been stated that they didn't look for her an hour before they realized that they need to call the police.
It seems clear that the suspect had a fantasy to play out and he would have found the opportunity. The way in which it played out is proof enough alone that given the opportunity he very well may have broken into their apartment to do it. Yes, there could have been more supervision but you also can't keep a child under lock and key because when someone has ambition like this suspect had...lock and key is the only way to keep them safe.
katie
8:40 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Lois once again with your wrong facts. Skylers family did not have dinner at 6. Jim, as u previously referred to him took her at 530, did what he did by 545 when his fiance called him and "got rid of her" all in time to be home and showed for dinner around 6. The family and other neighbors DID look for her before calling the police. Regardless, unless someone actually SAW him taking her there was no way it was going to be prevented. he did everything so quick
ls
4:24 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
No, Katie. The father actually said in an interview on Tuesday on Action News, on television, "(and I quote)....
"Last night, while I was having dinner she was being strangled. So where is the justice in that?" Skyler's father, Eric Kauffman, told ABC Affiliate WPVI.
Katie, my heart has been with her since I first heard of this on Tuesday morning. And I am NOT defending him in any way. I was in shock when I heard who did this abominable act. I knew him when he was younger. I still find it very hard to grasp that it was him.
And again, i am NOT defending him for what he did to Skyler. What he did was horrific but in the article above, it does state that she did not come in for dinner around 6 and the police were called after 7. And then, add to that , her father's comment on the news tuesday night. I am so sorry for her but I do have to question her parents responsibility for her safe keeping , as well. And I do stand by what I said above.
And, yes, I do have kids and my youngest is autistic.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
5:32 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
@Lois: The article regarding Eric Kauffman states that his parents bought a larger home to take in Eric, Skyler and her mother Heather. Heather and Skyler then moved away from the family to the apartments in Souderton. Eric's was stating that he was having dinner with his family on an innocuous day without knowledge at the time that while he was eating his daughter was being killed. Eric was then taken to the hospital following a panic attack after being informed of the murder.
No, this article does not explicitly state that Heather Gebhard (Skyler's mother) looked for her daughter before calling the police. However, I have received the unreleased court documents and the official police report states that she had searched for her daughter and when she couldn't find her she then called police and continued to search once the responding officer arrived.
I work with adults with disabilities and some have Autism and one of my good friends have Asperger's Syndrome. While I feel for your youngest being Autistic these possible diagnoses for Troutman in no way make a defense and also should get him no leniency. These would not cause him, in any way, to commit the acts he did.
I am working on information from other sources whom also grew up with Troutman that state while they couldn't have imagined his problems taking this kind of leap...that he did have problems. Not that this either is any kind of excuse for his actions.
ls
4:28 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
No, this is not an excuse for his actions, and this is to Rob in Seattle, as well.
When he mentioned a "white out", it made me wonder if he knew what he did or if he even remembers what he did. And the reason I say this is because my guy has had lapses in time. Remembers nothing. There was a period during the summer of 2007. From mid July to mid August. We had to wean him off of one med completely before starting him on another med. We had concerns because we were going to be doing a lot of traveling, but it had to be done. During this time when he was off of his meds, he remembers nothing. If we ask him about that time....do you remember doing this, do you remember when we went here...He doesn't remember it.
Again, not taking anything away from the severity of what he has done but it does raise some questions with us. We're still talking about it. By all accounts, for his actions, he should spend the rest of his life in jail. But then again and go ahead... blast away ....we also wonder if he should spend the rest of his life in a mental institution.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
5:01 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Whether or not he can currently recall just what happened should have no bearing on a probably sentence. He took her into the basement for something and he recalls that. Immediately after committing the crime he calls his fiancee with the story telling her that he was working out at the school which shows that he knew what he had done was wrong and was attempting to establish an alibi. Hiding her body, taking a shower and changing his clothing also shows that he was well aware of what he had done. If he goes with an insanity plea the biggest problem for him was that he clearly planned to do something "wrong" and knew that it was immediately following. People who kill in a blinding rage often times cannot remember what happened during the actual killing but that is also not a defense. I also wouldn't be so quick to label Troutman as an autistic who may or may not fall prey to a possible symptom of a disease or mental defect. He confessed that he killed poor Skyler because she would get him into trouble. So whether or not he can actually remember those few minutes while he was attacking her, it is not a mental issue.
ls
6:15 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Thank you so much for responding so quickly. I was hoping you would. I have read and reread this "a hundred times".
Thank you.
Not to take anything from poor Skyler, but we were really having a difficult time with this. Thank you for this.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
6:43 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
The full story comes out through reading many different articles and the unreleased court documents which were sent to me in order to do this kind of 'work' if you will. As I had previously stated I work with adults with mental disabilities and of course their families so I respond with compassion for them.
In just about any murder case even when the suspect confesses they will add something along the lines of "I didn't know what I was doing" or "I had a white-out". From all of his statements he took her to the basement and thought that because of the April 18th incident and taking her down to the basement that she'd get him into trouble so he had to kill her. Which also seems to lead to premeditation as he would know beforehand that he would have to kill her for taking her down there.
We are all dealing with this although nowhere near the extent to which Skyler's mother and family nor Eric Kauffman and his family are. But simply put a beautiful, innocent girl was taken from the world by a twisted man. That doesn't make it any easier to accept. But I've tried to make sure that blame wasn't misplaced on anyone or anything other than the sick individual that committed this atrocious crime.
Lezah
3:23 am on Thursday, May 12, 2011
I hesitate to place any blame on the mother, because she couldn't have foreseen this. But why did she allow her child back outside unsupervised after the first incident? And I refuse to believe there was nothing the police could have done after the mother reported the bathroom incident. A strange man holding two minors against their will in a bathroom isn't against the law? That's not kidnapping? They couldn't at least offer to keep an eye on this guy? I'm also wondering about Troutman's fiance. I refuse to believe this woman didn't know what kind of sick freak she was about to marry. I saw red flags just from reading one news article. I doubt Skyler was his first victim.
They don't need to waste tax payers' money on this degenerate. He doesn't deserve a trial, he should immediately be sentenced to death. Freaks like this can't be rehabilitated. They are beyond repair.
And I'm so tired of hearing people say, "I can't believe this happened here. This is such a nice neighborhood." Please. There are sickos lurking everywhere.
Guardian31756
3:39 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
@ Lezah, I agree with you.
I believe that each of us who comes and comments here should place themselves in the shoes of the Prosecuting Judge and try and figure out what punishment would be appropriate.
I should think that the Mother would get 1st dibbs on her request for his punishment, not the law itself.
Ashlee
12:37 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
I agree Lezah. but the girlfriend DIDN'T know. Sorry to say, and neither did the cops. According to the mother, the cops knew him..said in the first incident he was no danger...so..fail.
Guardian31756
1:15 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Pure and Simple= People feed on other people's STUPIDITY .
I see 3 things that substantiate my view here.
The mother was STUPID for letting her child out of her sight.
The child was STUPID for speaking to a stranger and letting herself get taken advantage of.
The scumbag was STUPID was feeding on the stupidity of the first two.
Don't think of me as Cold-Hearted and not caring, I DO CARE ! Simply put, it should never have happened to begin with.
I do understand that parents CAN NOT watch their children 24/7/365 all the time, I understand this. Parents are or have been teaching their children never to speak nor trust any one, it's just that parents should become more diligent in the safety and security of their children.
The child may have caused her own problem by letting her GUARD down, maybe the promise of candy or some other thing but she did commit an act of stupidity on her part.
This scumbag had taken advantage of an innocent child and committed a terrible act in the face of society. This little girl had lived for 9 years and this scumbag had taken his 5 mins of pleasure and ended it for her. Am betting 10 to 1 that he will plea "Not Guilty By Reason Of Insanity " and get away with it.
Maybe it would have been better if the COPS let the people do what they want.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
1:31 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
I am not sure that one should place blame on the victim considering that only the suspect stated that he WALKED her into the basement. It does not state that he walked with her into the basement. That they walked there hand-in-hand. If he snatched her (which could be likely as someone his size could grab a 9 year old girl with one arm and put the other hand over her mouth) then just by carrying her to the basement it would be walking her in there. And since only two people will ever know just how it happened I am not sure that we should take the word of someone that confessed to killing her even if he said that he offered her candy and she followed him under her own power.
Placing some blame on the family can be understandable because of what little information we actually know as outsiders. But the person who committed the crime is 100% culpable. I happen to find it to be incredibly insensitive to come to a news article about any person's murder and claim that they had in any way caused it to happen based upon suppositions.
katie
8:49 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
wow i can not believe he is putting blame on skyler. she was nine and little kids at that age do all types of things they are not supposed to. but the way you are saying makes u look ridiculous. Whether she asked to use his bathroom the first time or not, he as an adult, should have told he to go to her house around the corner. Which by the way, she didnt ask him. also i saw part of the court documents and he did not walk her anywhere. After "dragging" her to the basement he "snapped". Guardian i dont know if you have kids but by your statement i hope not because god forbid your child makes a STUPID decision as you call it one day and something like this happens to them. Im sure you wouldnt want people pointing the finger at you or even worse your child
Ashlee
6:02 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
I can assure you, an insanity plea will not be valid in his favor. He deliberately killed a 9 yr old girl. Even convicts would frown upon that. You don't just 'snap', this WAS indeed predetermined. For why, we will never know. If you ask me, I agree, only 2 people know what really happened, but is it really wise to attack people about 'being a bad parent'?
Ian
2:08 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
Why not just put him in a cage, no food no water and just watch him die? or he could be eaten alive by rats, there needs to be some kind of huge punishment (not death, too easy) for these kinds of people.
Guardian31756
3:32 am on Friday, May 13, 2011
@ Christopher-Michael Snyder, I agree with you and although I had not written all my views on this, Believe me, it hasn't escape me to think of all the possibilities of the crime.
I am not a Detective nor do I have all the facts, am just a Concerned Human Being that cares and I feel that my comment would get others to think about their lives. Our LAWS of today, and I base this on my own viewpoint here, it that all the LAWS are meant to prevent people from committing acts of Stupidity. There's a good reason why there's a LAW against Jaywalking and there's also a Requirement for motorist to believe that, even though, there is no stated law or regulation, Pedestrians, always have the RIGHT-OF-WAY.
It's ironic that a Police Officer would look down at a person who got hit by a car and render aid and then say to the victim "Excuse me, but your STUPID and here's your ticket for Jaywalking " and then issues a ticket to the motorist for hitting the victim, and you know what it would say, don't you?
People, like this scumbag should be flown off to an island for Rapist and let the others deal with him.
Ann
2:40 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
We live in the rural outskirts of Mont. County. Seven years ago, my daughter, then age 8, was molested while playing at a neighbor's house. Thank God she was not killed, but she has spent the last seven years struggling with the effects of this unspeakable trauma. I blame myself for not being more vigilant. But I also blame our pornography saturated culture. There is every conceivable kind of garbage on the internet just one click away from any sick person who wants to fill their mind with it. And when we say that is "freedom of speech" and can't be regulated, we are all culpable! My heart and prayers go out to this little girl"s family. Let it be a wakeup call to us all - What goes into your mind will come out again in some way!
Christopher-Michael Snyder
4:09 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
This harkens back to the nature-vs-nurture debate. While the accessibility of very questionable material could lead to problems forget not that those who commit such heinous crimes as these have it built into them. Either through chemical imbalances or possibly crossed synapses or the like. If I saw a movie where a similar crime were committed I would cringe and think that the person that committed the crime the lowest base denominator of humankind. While someone such as this case's suspect would thoroughly enjoy it. Movies, books, video games do not have the power to "turn" someone into a killer per se but could potentially spark something that already exists.
I agree completely that due vigilance is necessary but as a society we must be careful so as not to head towards a Minority Report type of society. I shudder to think of a world where I could walk by my neighbor's children and being the nice person that I am give them a cheerful hello just to have the FBI break down my door, scour my personal effects and detain me just for that. We must be careful to not turn everyone into a potential child murderer as only a VERY small number of humans could commit such a crime. It is just incredibly difficult to scan for things about a person that could be precursors to committing such a horrific act. Although in this case the April 18th report should be looked at closely..although I think after the case here is closed outside of how it pertains to the murder case.
Guardian31756
10:48 pm on Friday, May 13, 2011
@ Katie, regards ur comment of 8:49am May 13,2011, All I can say is that your comment is baseless !
My initial and followup comments regarding this tragic event is based on this article and from the following comments of others, I do have not the time to do a follow up on this story like the local folks so I have to base my comments on what is written here ! KATIE, I believe your comment is, once again, BASELESS ! Your using your EMOTIONAL side of your brain, not the Intelligent side. I never said anything to the fact that, SKYLER is to bear the entirety of blame ! Skyler's life prior to her being killed was set in motion by the previous variables that were already in place. What I am saying is difficult to explain, Skyler wouldn't have been killed if OUTSIDE variables, that we have no control over BTW, would not have come together !
@ Christopher, regarding ur comment of 4:09pm, May 13,2011, Your explanation and viewpoint regarding the Minority Report type of society is already here ! It's subtle but it's really here !
Remember that old saying : If, Only I could read your mind and other types like this ? Our LAWS and society are creeping up to that point.
Ashlee
12:44 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Thank you, Guardian for putting into words what I couldn't. People are using their emotional side of their brain, not their logical side. I myself have been using my logical side.
ls
5:49 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
My neighbor said the same thing regarding emotional and logical thinking. Very well put.
rob
2:37 am on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Hey Lois, Why when you mentioned you had kids you mentioned you have a autistic son, Why don't you leave autistic out of it and just say you have a son....... Is that how you introduce him in person? Like you having an autistic kid gives you a pass.. This is for Skyler, leave you and your Autistic son out of it. As far as Guardian31756. Leave yourself out of the conversation too. Believe it or not, This isn't about you or what or opinions on the case are. It's about Skyler and her parent's, family and close friends.. Jesus frikn CHRIST! I think we all agree this guy should suffer a slow painful death. God bless you Skyler, I never knew you but will make some good come from this, I promise you that.
ls
5:47 pm on Saturday, May 14, 2011
Hey Rob...
First question....Read above.
Next question....Again, read above.
Third question.... No, we don't and never have.
And regarding "the pass"....Absolutely not!
It does expand our thoughts, though.
Robert Seddon
11:27 am on Sunday, May 15, 2011
Too,too, sad.
robvuolo
5:51 pm on Sunday, May 15, 2011
That was a brilliant response Lois. Your thoughts seemed really "expanded" alright....How come in all your post's you say, "this was horrific act but,.........." There is no "but" Lois. He beat, raped and killed this little girl, there is no and's, if's or but's about it you pinhead....
ls
2:04 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
Because it was a horrific act.
Thank you again, Christopher. Your response has been extremely helpful to us.
Tina
11:49 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
To you sad,sad, nasty woman Lois
You belong in the very place this monster will spend his life!!!!!!!
May you burn in the pits of hell you sick twisted lost soul!!!!!!!!!!!!! How dare you spend your time bashing parents of a girl a 9 year old child who had NO SAY in what that monster did to her, you claim to be a Mother that is a joke!!!!!! I do not care if that sick bastard had mental health problems or not,let me and the rest of the world with actual love in their hearts at him eye for an eye!!!!! I hope to never run into the likes of you or him but if I did nothing would stop me!!!!!!!!!!!
I am the loving mommy of 5 girls one of whom went to school for a year with Skyler and our hearts break for this family!!! Give the rest of the money to charity? Is there a charity that could help someone like you? how about you do the world and this family a favor, keep your satin comments to yourself!!!! You bash the parents? I feel sorry for your children for their mother has a black heart and soul, you have no right to be breathing the same air as any human I know.
I would suggest you getting help but I think it's way to late for that to blame the child or parents is stomach wrenching! (Continued)
ls
2:45 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Yes, a charity in her name? A scholarship in her name? Absolutely.
Why would you believe this wouldn't be appropriate? It's not possible to change what has happened but in this way, her memory would forever live on, bringing help to others in some way or form.
ls
4:44 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
To Tina,
Regarding my 5/16/11.. 2:45 pm response to your posting....
Do you agree or do you NOT agree?
ls
7:04 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Tina?.....
Tina
11:50 am on Monday, May 16, 2011
As for a white out? really lady to defend him puts you at the bottom below him!!! As I stated I DO NOT care what mental issues he has or had to harm any other human is SICK ,BUT A CHILD AN INNOCENT CHILD YOU MY DEAR ARE ILL!!! Clearly the world knows he is not of this earth for anyone with a soul could and would never comprehend the acts of this sick bastard!!!! Do you spend your time trying to make up for your lack of compassion by hurting people who can't endure anymore pain?
how can you blame a family for wanting to move away from the hell they are living everyday? moving will never ease the pain you half witted moron your stupidity is sicking to think God blessed you with children makes my skin crawl. (continued)
Tina
12:07 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
I normally would not spend my time on someone like you but to say my blood is boiling is an understatement.
Today these parents have to say goodbye to their baby girl and never see her again,Skyler will never feel the sun on her face ,hear the ocean,birds chirping etc, the fact that you will again turns my stomach.
As for his white out really lady.............his parents should of put him away or helped him more if that is the defense!!! There simply is NOT any reason for the acts of the devil. A white out? How could someone who has a white out have the means to destroy a family and the life of an innocent child and then recall it to the police? a lawsuit dam straight they have a lawsuit the police and the district atty could have saved this child and nitwit I speak from experience. My 16 yr old daughter was the victim of a rape by 2 fellow students in the north penn school district but let me guess lost soul it is her fault or mine right? May he burn in hell and you soon after!!!!!!
May God give this family the strength and the peace to fight for the baby girl they lost to A MONSTER AND MAY YOU LIVE TO REGRET THE PAIN YOU ARE NOW TRYING TO CAUSE!!! I would say I feel sorry for you but I do not, may God give your children the wisdom to never be like you.
Ashlee
12:32 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Miss Tina. It's people like you, the religious babblers, who get under my skin. Let me make this clear, Lois here was just looking at it from her perspective, as a mother. She is saying she would have kept her children under closer watch or told them, 'don't go near him' HELL, if I was 9, I'd be scared to death to go near his end of the apartments...That doesn't mean he wouldn't have still done something. It was predetermined but we don't need you and your religious bantering telling her to go to hell. Just because we're not on the bandwagon and choose to look at things with much wider eyes, doesn't mean we should be condemned. The only person here who should rot in hell, is the murderer. Period the end. People are so afraid anymore to be opinionated because of people like you. By the way, how do YOU really know what heaven's like? Heaven could be a place that is individual for everyone, so nothing bad happens to you but you still have the birds chirping and the sun...I'm sure Skylar is in good hands..
Jill
12:12 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
In regards to this wight out business. He just happened to have a wight out on a girl he locked in his apartment weeks earlier. No he stalked her from that moment on looking for just the right moment to snatch her up. This was premeditated.
ls
5:32 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Regarding Christopher-Michael Snyder's 5:01 pm post on May 14, 2011:
Christopher's explanation was very informative and also held an extremely important piece of advice, in the one sentence.
We thank you.
Ashlee
12:14 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
The problem people don't seem to understand is, people with Asburgers, are relatively intelligent. They are good at tinkering and building things, mechanical things as well. When it comes to daily life, they cannot cope, they cannot function properly. I know someone who didn't do as bad as this, but from being around them, I learned a lot about the mind of a rapist and he himself is disgusted by this situation. He knew what he was doing, he is playing dumb..period the end. And Lois, I'm glad someone else has the same questions as me, harsh as it may seem. We just don't know, we don't know what REALLY went down; we weren't there, so naturally, we're curious. It's not a matter of keeping her under lock and key. Granted, he did do it SO fast. Tina, people are angry I understand that, but I can't help but think, there's WAY too many unanswered questions. NO ONE is blaming the mother, but we are looking at it from our own perspective, what would we do? Would we let her go play around his apartments, out of sight? As the father said, he would have found a way, either way to get Skylar because of his fantasy. IT'S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD and this is a very fresh and touchy issue. I believe just as much as the next person he should be dealt with properly, but have we all reverted to savages like him? (cont.)
ls
2:48 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Thank you, Ashlee
Ashlee
5:07 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Of course! how can I leave someone getting bombarded like that when I understand where you're coming from? Even if you have children or not, you have questions. You want to know why such a sad thing happened to a very bright and happy young girl. There was no call for it, no need for it to happen, so naturally, we're confused and hope maybe someone has answers. Never expecting, to come across people who just shun us.
Ashlee
12:21 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
As for the girlfriend, I used to live in Souderton, as did my boyfriend and even around his old area, it's not uncommon, and there isn't really much of a difference. I've heard normal play screams before that scared the daylights out of me because I thought someone was in danger, and here a kids being chased by his brother or friend. Another thing, for some reason, Souderton has a tendency to echo...sounds are bounced off everything. You can't tell me your kid had an argument with you once and screamed NO! and you weren't embarrassed? She said many times, she never expected THIS out of the guy she thought would one day be her husband. I've met her at the gym a few times, and she herself has always been a sweet person, always polite. After seeing her interview on the news, I could see the genuine shock in her face..for people to attack her when I doubt anyone REALLY knows, again, what happened..it disgusts me.
Tina
2:36 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
are you just as stupid lady?????????? the very last thing I am is some bible welding idiot ok!!!! I never claimed to know heaven, what I do know is people like you allow scum like that to live among us!!! I do not care what he has or claims to have a lil girl lost her life period!!!!!!! An island should be made where you and all your bandwagon idiots can bash other people to make yourselves feel better for your lack of humanity!!!!!!! Clearly I am giving my own thoughts not the bibles I do not attend church and I am not trying to make anyone hop on the Jesus bandwagon,I am a Mother and like any other human with a heart I feel for this family,autisum or not may he rot in hell
Ashlee
5:29 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
I don't care of your religious preference. The point here is, you attacked 2 people now, for their opinion. Once again, you're saying hurtful things to people you don't even know, don't you think it's a little silly? Especially for a mother, you're supposed to set an example. Also, we have a lack of humanity? Are you kidding me? You know, humanity is a vague word anymore, not a whole lot of people are very humane, look at how we treat animals..allowing them to suffer when they're older for our own sake. Everyone is selfish, we have to be a little inside. As stated by everyone on this page, we are very, deeply saddened by this tragedy but what you don't get, is you and your kids knew her. You, right now. Are sitting in the 'front row' of the spectrum. People like myself and Lois and anyone else who really didn't know her or are speaking from an outside perspective, are in the 'back row' it's once again, a matter of perspective. (by the way, way to use my terms to validate your own argument.)
Jill
4:03 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
What make me sick is when people have sympathy and compassion for a child rapist and murderer. You all may try to say that you are just tiring to understand why he did this but you put way to much energy into defending him with your talks of white outs and what ever else you try to make to cover his inexcusable crime. Your sympathy is misguided. Ashlee it is very funny that you chose to attack Tina for being religious and on not on the grounds of this forum. could it be that she is 100% correct and you have no good rebuttals. For all you know the mother was under the impression that another kids mom was out side with the children. If a child does not come home on time you look for them yourself with the neighbors for a while. That is why the cops where not called until an hour later again for all you know.
Ashlee
5:43 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Who EVER said we were defending him? YOU DID. And to make assumptions like that about someone is so blinded. The way she was speaking to Lois did seem like she was condemning her or trying to throw the fear of god in her face.. God forbid someone has an opinion who doesn't agree with you. And Tina, the '!!!!!!' just proves your intelligence. The main point here is, we're all sad about what happened, we ALL wish the family only the best. We want him to suffer.
Jill, I attacked her BECAUSE she was pretty much preaching to Lois for no apparent reason but to make herself seem like the big person. I commend Lois for standing her ground. On your statement that the mother may have had someone else watching her, I'd think the mother would have said so in her interview and if someone was, she wouldn't be gone. That argument is irrelevant, sorry. Also, how do you know if Tina's 100% correct; or myself for that matter? You don't, because it's only our opinions. Lois and several others here, I see, had some questions and people like you and Tina are the reason we don't speak up..so our questions go unanswered. Sorry, but I believe in freedom of speech and Lois was brave in utilizing it. Sadly, our opinions are being judged by those who don't believe in freedom of speech. Such is life, we just keep on truckin' then, shall we?
Tina
7:15 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
ashlee I am really not going to waste anymore time on you or Lois.No one is taking away freedom of speach!!!!!!!! My intelligence really coward? The questions you have we all have but it is not our place to question a Mother who is suffering the loss of a child.
Do any of us feel what this family is going thru? I would not wish this suffering on anyone. I am defending a family who is at the very least heart broken,I have nothing to gain or lose.
I did not say we knew her my 9 year old daughter did so pay attention to what you are fighting over.I do not want a front row seat because this is not a movie this is one of lifes most upsetting lessons,instead of bashing the people left behind learn from it.
For the record my !!!!!!!!! is simply because I can't smack people like you and Lois upside the friggen head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! None of us will ever understand any of this and it is not our place to do so.
Don't you think the Mother has her own questions? Don't you think the guilt of turning her back is killing her? Get a grip ladies this is not about any of us,may this family find peace and may Mr white out suffer until the end of time.
as for you F off
Jill
7:18 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
Lois you brought up the charities on the other article you commented on. How ever the money is spent I do not believe the ppl donating care. Now to make it so I stop getting emails from this
Tina
7:22 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
@ Lois of course a charity in her name would be great............. but the family just burried her today. give them the time to come to terms with the loss of a 9 year old innocent child! You me or anyone else has no right to question anything they have done.
Christopher-Michael Snyder
11:02 pm on Monday, May 16, 2011
I've calmed this down at least once before and I shall try again. I know that I've seen some references to past comments that Lois has made. If you read through the discussions on here between her and myself you will hopefully see that I've helped her come to terms to some extent. And that's how we left it.
The main point of this 'forum' should be to help all seek solace even for those of us who weren't personally involved. When I was younger I lived on Hillside Ave in Souderton but that's about the closest I come. I currently do not have children but I hope to one day so I can still relate to some degree. Even for those that have a strong relationship with God should also seek help from our peers. I would do anything that I could to help. It's just hard for me to read bashing in the comments section of an article which proclaims that a monster took a little girl's life.
As I have stated several times: while we may question several things (remember that hindsight is 20/20) there is no one to blame but James Troutman. There may have been lapses in judgment on the part of many people for two months. But let that not take away from where the blame lies. If anyone has questions I can do my best to answer them. I have a lot of information. But again only two people and God knew what happened as a whole. But I'd do my best to help.
Lori
12:24 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
As much as I would love to state what I really think, all I will say is that I'm glad I'm not his judge.
rob
9:59 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
I think we can all agree that Lois is a pinhead, and obviously doesn't have much going on...A few fries short from a happy meal you might say.... I just thank god or who ever (don't wanna be called a bible thumber) that the majority of the people out there are good, caring loving people like Jill and Tina. And most sane people agree that there is no one else to blame besides the the sick bastard that did this! No and's, if's of but's about it. I have 5 year old daughter and can't even imagine something so awful. Lil Skyler will always be in my heart.
Tina
10:22 am on Tuesday, May 17, 2011
I did not comment on this page for bashing anyone but again my skin crawls that we as outsiders try tounderstand the actions of the monster who took the life of a little girl.
I am only speaking as a mom of a victim of a horriable crime,in which the montgomery county Da is involved.
My2 older daughetrs can not attend school because 1 of the sick bastards still attends even after pleadng guilty to the crime(sentencing will be July 20th) it seems tome the victim is always to blame!
I still have my child but the scars she will carry are forever.
I am not signing in to this anymore for Ihave said all I need to say.
May this family find peace and this little girl be at rest and this sick monster burn
AC krypton
1:58 am on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
let me alone with that asshole and ill kill him slow ..rip off his figernails stick them with needles..nails throught his penis and balls , a worn out old wooden baseballbat in his ass.. ill keep it going for a month ..everyday
AC krypton
2:04 am on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
i live down the street from where it all happened . i knew the mother years ago , never knew skyler .. i attended the viewing .. no one should ever have shit like that in their head..to do that to a child is sick . he needs to be tourchered..what he did to skyler , needs to be done to him except death
Frances
9:07 am on Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Troutman's background should be thoroughly looked into. I knew him years ago. My child refused to play with him as Troutman had tried to hug my child in a lingering manner and went to touch my child in an inappropriate place. Troutman has had problems since he was a small child n was in Horsham clinic twice before the age of 12. He tried to sexually molest his own siblings, as well as neighborhood children. He tried to molest a girl while on a school bus. This action caused him to spend several years in a delinquent facility near Lancaster. All this while he was a child! So now he's autistic? Really? If indeed he is, that will never excuse nor explain his premeditated behavior n serial history of being a sexual predator. He slipped thru the cracks of the system, and a child, her family, and a community suffered. I don't want my tax dollars supporting him. The death penalty for him is appropriate!
Abby
12:01 pm on Thursday, May 19, 2011
I want to be very clear about something after reading these responses. James Troutman has a very long history of sexual assault on children. This did not come out of nowhere and he is not autistic and does not have an undiagnosed mental health issue other than being a sexual deviant. I worked in a juvenile residential treatment facility where he was placed for sexually deviant behaviors. He was able to complete the sex offender treatment program because he is a master manipulator. The true problem here lies in the fact that, when under the age of 18, if you commit a sexual crime and complete treatment without being "charged" no one will ever know what you have done. The National Sexual Offender Registry and Megan's Law do NOT extend to juveniles!! This man has been assaulting little girls for a very long time but was never seen in the eyes of the law as a sexual criminal. I worked directly with this man when he was a teenager in a treatment program for juvenile sexual offenders. I remember him clearly, and I guarantee that he has assaulted many young girls through the years. This may just be the first time that he has escalated to murder. As far as his fiancee hearing the wailing and crying from the basement, I am sure that James Troutman chose a woman that was easily manipulated so that she would never question him on his "activities". I am not defending her, but I am pretty sure she is not the sharpest tack in the box.
Frances
7:54 pm on Thursday, May 19, 2011
Thank you, Abby, for your comments. In this case, his juvenile record needs to be brought forward. This man has a long history of deviant sexual behavior that has a direct bearing on this case. Our system failed us and a sexual predator was let loose in our society, and a little girl has paid the ultimate price by losing her life. I had been on friendly terms with his family years ago and many of his family members glossed over his deviant behavior and downplayed it. When his own mother was admitting there was a problem, her in laws blamed her and said she imagined it. James had incidents with boys while at Horsham Clinic. My own child said James seemed evil and never wanted to be around him again. I listened to my child and am so glad I did. What I would like to know is how no one managed to see this monster take Skyler to the basement, and why no one else heard her wailing. And Abby is right, Heather Clemens is obviously not the sharpest tack in the box. The police should charge her for her role in this travesty. What did she think when he came home in bloody clothes? Did she think he'd been finger painting? I think the DA should listen to public outcry and coerce the judge to allow his juvenile records to come into play.
Keith Heffintrayer
2:01 pm on Monday, June 6, 2011
Frances,
I'd like to speak with you in more detail regarding the juvenile record and prior acts. Can you email me your contact info? slavetologic@gmail.com
Milton Pugh
7:59 pm on Saturday, June 18, 2011
The man was no stranger to the child ,nor to the family. No telling but this was not his first apporach to the child. My prayer to the family
Angelica
5:46 pm on Monday, March 19, 2012
IM not defending what he did at all its truly horrible but autism/aspergers cause black out moments where people do things where they forget.Yes its true my son attacked my son once whne fighting and he truly didnt remember it.Only medication after the fact and counseling then he started to remember and remorsed. The guy had a girlfriend.hes had a history of mental illness,obviously wasnt taking his medication..My heart goes out to the fasmily it truly does but the truth is autism /aspergers is real and it should factor into his sentencing and he should be put into a mental health facility the rest of his life not into a prison. ...
Nerissa
10:43 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
Angelica, maybe YOU need to be placed in a mental health facility for thinking that this monster shouldn't spend his life rotting to shit in prison. I also know people with Aspergers/Autism. Guess what, Angelica?! THEY KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG. Get a life and stop defending this ass hole.
Robelli
8:41 am on Sunday, April 7, 2013
Ok lemme give you some insight here...... I knew this man, or I thought I did. He's not a man, he's a boy, he was babied his entire life and developed a couple learning disabilities. Then, this guy touched his little sister. His shit family defended him and drove the sister to become a drug addict whore who has a bad self-esteem problem. Seeing this, she became the only one to speak up as her twin sister was also touched but didn't want the ridcule. It wasn't until "jimmy" as the family calls him caught him touching his very young (toddler) half sister and sent him to what I was told was called " the summit school" that was supposed to "fix" him. So when little sister who spoke out still couldn't forgive him, the family belittled her until she was forced away from their former home in Telford.
So before you defend anything let it be know that this kid was fucked up from the start