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Parked In: Lansdale Police Look at Blocked Penn Street Driveway

Councilman Jason Van Dame reported to the Lansdale Public Safety Committee of a resident complaint about their driveway being blocked by Penndale Middle School teachers and faculty, according to Van Dame.

Lansdale Police will investigate what they can do to ease parking problems being faced by a resident on the 500 block of Penn Street, near Penndale Middle School.

"Regularly, his driveway is blocked by cars parking along there," said Councilman Jason Van Dame during this month's public safety committee meeting. "He called the department many times to come out and ticket the cars blocking him. But is there any signage to recommend?" 

Lansdale Police Chief Robert McDyre said the police could recommend painting of the curb yellow to help those situations.

"It is not marked well," Van Dame said. "There's a telephone pole (in front of the house). You go during the school day and you can see cars parked up close to the driveway."  

Van Dame told McDyre he thought the cars were mainly from teachers parking during the day or seldom at night for events.

"He usually parks his truck at the end of the driveway and leaves it there, so people can see there's a car there," Van Dame said. "It's been an ongoing issue for many years."

McDyre said he would look into the situation with the homeowner.

He also said there may not be "Do Not Block Driveway" signs available in Pennsylvania.

"I don't remember seeing signs in Pennsylvania," he said. "New Jersey has them at the shore: Do Not Block Driveway. But, I don't think I've seen them in Pennsylvania."

Richard Strahm March 19, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Looking at Google Earth, I count around 290 parking spaces in the east and west lots at Penndale Middle School. A look at the school's web site has the employee population of the school at about 200. Perhaps if the school did a better job of getting its employees to park in the school lots instead of on the street (where some of the spaces are closer), there wouldn't be a problem for the residents!
Julianne Wylie March 19, 2013 at 04:50 PM
I am sure Penndale has more than 200 staff members each day. One class alone there has 600+ students in it.
Julianne Wylie March 19, 2013 at 04:53 PM
However I do agree that some parents (typically) are rude when they park on Penn Street. I have an agreement with a friend who also lives there that I can use their driveway at school events but I have witnessed not being able to get into her DOUBLE WIDTH driveway because cars park well past the driveway etc. I am not totally sure why teachers park on the street as well since kids cant drive to school there yet anyway, so I woul dbe curious to find out who is all parking there, when and why.
Jenn March 19, 2013 at 05:44 PM
If it was my driveway, on my property, I think I would prolly put some nails down...accidentally leave my trash cans a little further out ?? Make your own signs?? Be creative people, I'm sure the police have better things to do. I lived in an apartment and every dam time I shovled the snow off our spot...the minute we drove out of it someone gobbled it up. So I put lawn chairs down after I shovled. People are too lazy to get out and move them, or they realize they can't park there, either way they went somewhere else. Maybe I don't understand the problem in this story. Guy ownes a home, with a driveway, that people keep blocking. So see the problem and fix it. Just seems like now a days people want everyone else to take care of thier problems.
Richard Strahm March 19, 2013 at 05:51 PM
I did a drive by today. I saw the truck in the driveway in question. While today, the driveway is not blocked, there are cars parked on each side very close. And the school parking lot? The part down by Church Road is 100% empty. I think the 200 employees is close. 600 kids per class time 3 grades divided by 22 in each class equals 82 teachers plus administration and support staff . . .
Richard Strahm March 19, 2013 at 06:46 PM
Common sense would tell you that the school should send a memo to all staff to park in the school lots! I'm sure some people don't like that, because when everyone tries to leave at once at the end of the day, it can get a bit congested. But that's life!
Steven Long March 19, 2013 at 07:16 PM
Prolly? Do you mean "probably?"
Steven Long March 19, 2013 at 07:19 PM
Common sense would be if the people would not block a driveway. I mean, teachers are supposed to have common sense. if they are not smart enough to avoid blocking a driveway ... if they are not smart enough to park in a specific parking lot ... if they are too lazy to park in the proper spot .. what kind of work ethic to they have in the classroom? Do they tell students to "do what you can ... no need to worry about doing anything properly?"
Bill March 19, 2013 at 08:23 PM
She meant prolly. I am sure.
Jennifer Verna March 19, 2013 at 09:01 PM
Prolly = probably. :)
Pat Bendler March 20, 2013 at 04:47 PM
I believe there is a "Do Not Block Driveway" sign on Orvilla Road between Main Street and Allentown Road.
Maria March 20, 2013 at 06:00 PM
"Also, you are assuming each grade has 600 kids": If you read your comment, which is the second one down, you are the one who stated 600 students+ per class. I am sure Richard was going off of what you posted.
Maria March 20, 2013 at 06:04 PM
I believe in the PENNDOT Drivers manual, there is a law/rule that states DO NOT BLOCK DRIVEWAYS. Maybe yet sadly, Lansdale needs to just spend a day there ticketing these morons. Seriously? Either that or make these teachers/staff re-take the permit test. After all, us tax payers spend a fortune on our school taxes to pay their salaries. The least they can do is have some respect for us and not block the driveways.
silverback March 20, 2013 at 06:51 PM
see what ya started now Jason
Maria March 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Seriously? 600 in one class? Have you ever been in their classrooms? Aside from it being IMPOSSIBLE, that many students in a classroom is illegal. And before you ask, yes I've been in that school. My Children used to go there until I transferred them out last year.
Julianne Wylie March 20, 2013 at 11:36 PM
but that being said, #'s are not what the complaint is about , it is about people ILLEGALLY parking (signs are quite VISIBLE that say 2 hr parking only) on the road , OR blocking someone's driveway. And again, with those visible signs, I would like someone to prove that each and every car belongs to a teacher or administrator at the school.
Maria March 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM
You're really contradicting yourself. You say 600+ per class, Richard divides that by 3 you say he's wrong. You say 600 per class. That would make one to believe you mean classroom.
Maria March 20, 2013 at 11:41 PM
There are teachers who park on the street because it's easier to leave than it is in a parking lot. I've seen them park on the street off of Penn and cross at the cross walk.
Julianne Wylie March 20, 2013 at 11:45 PM
then have the cops ticket them because it is CLEARLY posted that it is 2 hr parking only.
Maria March 20, 2013 at 11:48 PM
I agree 100%! But I'm not sure if those roads have 2 hour limits.
Jason March 21, 2013 at 09:21 PM
Just a quick note to clarify a couple of things. First, the parking issue arises either when school is in session, or there is an event at the school. This leads me to believe that those parking there are either school staff, volunteers, parents, or visitors (not necessarily teachers specifically). Second, the issue is not just limited to one driveway, as I have since learned that a neighbor experiences the same issue on occasion. Third, I agree that the police department has better things to do with there time than writing parking tickets (which punish the offender, but don't actually prevent future occurrences of the same problem). Which is why I thought it appropriate to look for a better solution. Finally, I think that borough property owners should be able to expect clear access to there driveways. Unfortunately, we cannot legislate common sense, but we can, and should work to solve problems as they are brought to our attention. FYI: the 2 hr parking limit is further down the road along the park. I don't ink the residents of this street would want to be limited to a 2 hr parking limit in front of there homes.
Nehoc Leinad March 22, 2013 at 01:11 AM
if a car is blocking your private property access, research your gal rights to tow the offending vehicles.
Julianne Wylie March 23, 2013 at 03:14 PM
ACTUALLy there are at least 6 2 hr parking signs entirely in front of the school. I was there yesterday, 2 signs per every block all the way down to past the tennis courts. And I agree, the residents shouldnt have to abide the 2 hr parking rule-tho MOST of them have driveways. Even the side streets have 2 hr parking signs in the roads. As for school events, the side parking lot would only handle so many cars. But I agree if you are there for an EXTENDED time (not just for 15-30 mins0 then park in the school parking lots.
Julianne Wylie March 23, 2013 at 03:15 PM
and either way, I am not saying there is not a problem. Just saying look at all sides of the story.
Jason March 23, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Julianne, the problem is on the block from Woodland up to Church, where there are no 2 hr parking restrictions. You are correct that the other blocks have 2 hr parking signs.

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